Just a thought I figured I'd run by you all.
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The idea of putting all preference/applet/launcher/theme windows into one main window, with tabs etc, it would take some reorganizing but might make it a bit nicer.
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I would not opt to get them all in one main window. I even think the launcher applet configuration should be removed and added to applet preferences. There should be a button to change the preferences of an applet. And if you are standing on the launcher applet and click that button you should get the preferences...
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Yes I agree that the preference window for applets should be in their own window. But the Add Applet and Add Launcher etc could be in a 'main' configuration window.
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Yeah, I've had some ideas for this, just lacked the time! Hopefully I can write something soon :-).
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I may sit down tonight and hack up a few layouts with glade. I'll see if I can integrate my theme manager as well. If I come up with anything I deem good enough I'll post some screen shots.
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| #4780 by nicolas2b54 (0.9206) posted on 1:43am Saturday, July 28th, 2007 |
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Very good. I've a suggestion, but I don't know how to do it, replace the tab on the left with icon. I've seen it in the pref window of kiba-dock.
With this technic, there also one icon per applet, it's lighter than only one tab, because if we have many applet, how do you show it ? With many tab ?
With this technic, there also one icon per applet, it's lighter than only one tab, because if we have many applet, how do you show it ? With many tab ?
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Each applet wouldn't get its own tab. All the applets would go in the Applet Preference box, sorta of the way it works now.
We could add a Configure button for applets that had there own preference box that pops up as well.
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Very nice :-)
I'd make the tabs on the top, rather then the side, as it works better with the HIG (and also in locales which are rtl).
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Id consider trying to avoiding nesting a notebook within a notebook. This can become rather ugly and downright difficult to navigate for novice users.
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DBO said:
Id consider trying to avoiding nesting a notebook within a notebook. This can become rather ugly and downright difficult to navigate for novice users.
Wow, I totally missed that :-/.
DBO's right, notebok within a notebook is not nice, and adds to visual clutter. Maybe have a sidebar or something? I wish I had the time to help :-).
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| #4793 by nicolas2b54 (0.9206) posted on 3:06am Saturday, July 28th, 2007 |
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As I say before, why not a sidebar with icon like that ?
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| #4798 by nicolas2b54 (0.9206) posted on 3:45am Saturday, July 28th, 2007 |
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Yes, but with one BIG difference, one icon BY APPLET. Because if we group all the applet in the same panel, it's not "clean".
NB it's only my opinion, I don't want to critic what you do.
NB it's only my opinion, I don't want to critic what you do.
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I know it looks ugly but I just want to point out that we could add an expander to the list too:
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Do people remember WS-FTP still? There you had arrows in between the both panels and you could move files between the two directories in the panels by select one or more files and clicking the arrow. With the last mockup of you Neil this could be added to (over the options you already propose). This is very intuïtive for most users. Furthermore I would first show all available applets and then the most right panel would contain all the used applets.
However should we think about supporting categories for applets in the layout too? Like in the Gnome 'Add to panel' dialog? As the feature hopefully brings many applets, among them all the currently existing gnome panel items.
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the triple pane idea is downright beautiful there njpatel. It might be worthwhile to always have the plus and minus buttons visible to help the user figure out exactly whats going on.
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| #4809 by nicolas2b54 (0.9206) posted on 4:47am Saturday, July 28th, 2007 |
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@Neil it's cool !
How you access to the pref of each applet ?
How you access to the pref of each applet ?
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why should an applet need preferences? If an applet needs to be configured I think the most logical way to handle that is to let the applet offer a configuration option like gnome-panel does.
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| #4813 by nicolas2b54 (0.9206) posted on 4:51am Saturday, July 28th, 2007 |
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DBO said:
I mean a right click option on the applet... sorry... clarity helps
Ok, I misunderstanding what you said before ans I was surprise.
Maybe, instead of right-clicking, we can use a sliding-pane like.
This pane will come over the applet part to show the conf, we choose the pref, save and the pane disappear.
Maybe, instead of right-clicking, we can use a sliding-pane like.
This pane will come over the applet part to show the conf, we choose the pref, save and the pane disappear.
But I think it's difficult to do this with Gtk : A SlidingPaneWidget ?
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| #4842 by aVirulence (0.2663) posted on 9:06am Saturday, July 28th, 2007 |
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IMHO, the first mockup by ryancr is the most intuitive.
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Wow this has generated a lot of good ideas.
njpatel83 said:
DBO's right, notebok within a notebook is not nice, and adds to visual clutter. Maybe have a sidebar or something? I wish I had the time to help :-).
This was the reason I used tabs on the left, I guess it was my idea of a sidebar. Yeah if I put the tabs on the top it would definitely make for some visual clutter.
I do like the three column layout, because it allows not to have another popup window for choosing applets/launchers.
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Ok so here is a half working version, themes and preferences work, applets and launchers don't yet.
Edit: Bad file....
You need to run: awnManager.py
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| #4886 by asomething (0.9744) posted on 2:34am Sunday, July 29th, 2007 |
ryancr said:
You need to run: awnManager.py
This doesn't work at all for me.
My cursor turns into a cross-hair, I get system beeps when I click on anything, and then two png files are created in the folder containing awnManager.py
I'm running rev227 on Feisty...
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Wow, you are right, I forgot to add the python env line at the top of the file, if you run it with: python awnManager.py it works but without specifying python it does that weird behavior you described.
Anyways here is fixed version:
Edit: Bad File...
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I get this when I try it
rob@rob-vaio:~/Desktop/awn_manager$ python awnManager.py
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 16x16/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 16x16/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 22x22/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 22x22/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 24x24/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 24x24/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 32x32/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 32x32/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 48x48/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 48x48/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 64x64/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 64x64/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 72x72/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 72x72/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 96x96/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
awnManager.py:42: GtkWarning: Theme directory 96x96/filesystems of theme nuoveXT.2.1 has no size field
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
(awnManager.py:12151): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_get_uri_from_local_path: assertion `g_path_is_absolute (local_full_path)' failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "awnManager.py", line 186, in <module>
awnmanager = AwnManager()
File "awnManager.py", line 108, in __init__
self.prefManager.widget_callback('setup_font','TITLE_FONT_FACE', self.wTree.get_widget("selectfontface"))
File "/home/rob/Desktop/awn_manager/awnPreferences.py", line 151, in widget_callback
function_to_call(key, widget)
File "/home/rob/Desktop/awn_manager/awnPreferences.py", line 229, in setup_font
font_btn.set_font_name(self.client.get_string(key))
TypeError: GtkFontButton.set_font_name() argument 1 must be string, not None
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "awnManager.py", line 186, in <module>
awnmanager = AwnManager()
File "awnManager.py", line 108, in __init__
self.prefManager.widget_callback('setup_font','TITLE_FONT_FACE', self.wTree.get_widget("selectfontface"))
File "/home/rob/Desktop/awn_manager/awnPreferences.py", line 151, in widget_callback
function_to_call(key, widget)
File "/home/rob/Desktop/awn_manager/awnPreferences.py", line 229, in setup_font
font_btn.set_font_name(self.client.get_string(key))
TypeError: GtkFontButton.set_font_name() argument 1 must be string, not None
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| #4911 by nicolas2b54 (0.9206) posted on 9:19am Sunday, July 29th, 2007 |
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I'd got the same problem.
I did this :
Go in "/home/rob/Desktop/awn_manager/awnPreferences.py", line 229, in setup_font
and replace
I did this :
Go in "/home/rob/Desktop/awn_manager/awnPreferences.py", line 229, in setup_font
and replace
font_btn.set_font_name(self.client.get_string(key))
by
font_btn.set_font_name("")
It's only a little hack to get the program running, it's NOT resolving the problem.
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| #4919 by asomething (0.9744) posted on 10:38am Sunday, July 29th, 2007 |
The new version is dumping this:
(awnManager.py:8356): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file 'window.glade'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/andrew/source-installs/awn_manager/awnManager.py", line 186, in <module>
awnmanager = AwnManager()
File "/home/andrew/source-installs/awn_manager/awnManager.py", line 42, in __init__
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
RuntimeError: could not create GladeXML object
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/andrew/source-installs/awn_manager/awnManager.py", line 186, in <module>
awnmanager = AwnManager()
File "/home/andrew/source-installs/awn_manager/awnManager.py", line 42, in __init__
self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(self.gladefile, domain=I18N_DOMAIN)
RuntimeError: could not create GladeXML object
nicolas2b54 said:
font_btn.set_font_name("")
This gets it running.
Will post thoughts after playing around.
Edit:
Looks great! I really like the feel. The one thing that I would suggest is getting the bar_angle and icon_offset keys into the GUI.
Looks great! I really like the feel. The one thing that I would suggest is getting the bar_angle and icon_offset keys into the GUI.
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Sorry about that, I forgot I had made a couple patches on my side for font selection.
Just commented them out for now.
Here is fixed version (hopefully):
Edit: Removed, new version below
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Ok we are getting closer, a few things left to work out.
Check it out, give me feedback.
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glad to see some work towards this :D
excuse me whilst i throw my 2 cents towards you people, having the tabs on the side is incredibly better than having on the top, especially when you have many tabs, otherwise it's just plain annoying....
as for http://www.mediafire.com/?4mwojsmwfjb ....very nice !!! :D
need some up and down arrows for the applets...
and the options in gconf that aren't already there...
thnx for your work :D
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Thanks.
Yeah the extra gconf stuff I still have to add, but like the launchers the applets will be able to just be drag and drop sorted in the list.
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| #5025 by asomething (0.9744) posted on 10:41am Monday, July 30th, 2007 |
ryancr said:
Yeah the extra gconf stuff I still have to add, but like the launchers the applets will be able to just be drag and drop sorted in the list.
It's looking great! I love the drag and drop ability for the launchers. Keep it up. It's good to see someone working to improve these basic needs. It's so easy to get caught up in the excitement of new effects and forget to work on these things. This is the kind of thing that will keep people with AWN. If it's too confusing to configure people will just try it out and cast it aside. This is a great step...
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asomething said:
It's looking great! I love the drag and drop ability for the launchers. Keep it up. It's good to see someone working to improve these basic needs. It's so easy to get caught up in the excitement of new effects and forget to work on these things. This is the kind of thing that will keep people with AWN. If it's too confusing to configure people will just try it out and cast it aside. This is a great step...
Thanks for the kind words.
I would probably be doing the fun stuff but that cairo/c stuff hurts my head 
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Great when the new Gconf option are added too, I hope it gets into the SVN!
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